Any thoughts or experience of doing this? For the finish I'm thinking of a stain and then applying a vinyl decal to the outside and then sealing it with a … I have sprayed lacquer over vinyl lettering for a sign and had no issues placing the vinyl directly on the stained wood, then spraying over the top. 9. Emporio Clear PU Finishes are used to protect wood while retaining its original grains by … I usually thin it with some Tamiya lacquer thinner 1 to 1 and a few drops of retarder. If you're going to lacquer over the decals, you need to leave them for as long as possible after applying. If you're going to lacquer over the decals, you need to leave them for as long as possible after applying. Lacquer over decals? If you use solvent or petrolium based liquids there is a strong chance you will destroy the decal! Should I try to spray a couple of light coats then … What you need to do is flat it as I show in the demo. Either completely flat or semi-gloss. Once the decal is dry and exactly where you want it, take your decal softener such as Mr. Mark Softer and brush it all over the decal, making sure it doesn’t move. Thin factory applied transfer type decals have to be lacquered* as this “fixes” them as they would scratch off very easily.*AFAIK. Also did the same thing with poly. Cart 0 Product Products ... PU retains it finish over prolonged exposures to UV. Joined: Nov 10, 2010 Location: North Carolina. Yes. 1 year 3 weeks ago #57479. to key the surface of the decal, this will damage the printing. Graemevw77; Topic Author; Offline; Born to be Wild Posts: 95 ; Likes received: 35 ; The shiny decals thing i hadnt really thought about, but the real cars stripes are shiny. I assume based on my experience that the decals will last as long as they are supposed to, or longer, because of having a coat of clear paint or lacquer applied over them. I have read also the decal can be sealed using lacquer instead of the acrylic sealer, can butyrate clear be applied over the lacquer when sealing the decals on the plane? A good overcoat of lacquer maybe the thing to hold them down, but I’m worried that they’ll still lift and I’ll be left with a horrid mess. I don’t like to apply the decal to bare wood so a few coats of lacquer are needed. Brush decal softener onto the decal. Decals and Wall Stickers; Kids Theme Stencils; Kids Magnetic Wall Themes; Paints to Create Kids Themes; Paints for Kids Decor & Furniture; Blog; Download Catalogs; Compare Products ; Search. You want the lacquer … I’m in a similar situation with a frame I’ve just had resprayed. one of the flaws with a self coloured vinyl, it will be between 0.8 – 0.6 micron in thickness so will always have an “edge” to it, not really ideal for thin line work or small text, but fine for 2-3mm and above if not in high wear areas, certainly know of one frame refinished who regularly bakes my decals but I only use Cast vinyl and this makes a big difference – always go with a cast vinyl over a calendered if you get an option – a little thinner and more stable at higher temperatures, with better adhesion. PU Matt and Glossy finishes for wood. We’re using a wood, ceramic, and a plastic material here. It is easier using lacquer out of a can instead of prepping to spray the butyrate using my airbrush to seal the decal. Can you lacquer over vinyl stickers? The product has its own thinner and once properly mixed, you can apply it directly over any kind of plastic. Thin factory applied transfer type decals have to be lacquered* as this “fixes” them as they would scratch off very easily.*AFAIK. Brush decal softener onto the decal. The instructions also state "Using an enamel clear coat such as Krylon or Rust-o-leum may cause damage to the decal." Our vinyl decals have a great durability as is. Over decals I use gloss coat 1st, to give a little thicker layer to blend any decal film that might be visible. Does anyone know if you can spray Lacquer clear finish over acrylic paint? For my second attempt, I did a little more research into the decals. The rule has ALWAYS been acrylic (water-based) over enamel over lacquer but not the reverse. FOR DECALS - the safest way to nitro over a decal, is to use shellac as an intermediate coat. The Dupli-Color Perfect Match clear coat says it is a fast drying acrylic lacquer. Pretty much have to do the whole frame to get it to lock right. Check that the decal is securely stuck all over. When the tanks come to me they don't have decals on, I pinstripe them and send them off to the decal department. I’m hesitating now as the decals I have are quite intricate in places and some of the thinner sections are lifting (especially where they follow a line or curve on the frame). James Them did about another 3 coats. Lacquer first, then enamel or acrylic. Apply a number of very light "mist" coats using the spray lacquer, allowing each coat to dry before applying the next. Two coats of clear shellac fully dried, then nitro over that. 5 to 10 minutes between coats. I don't see any difference between the two, maybe time will tell. There are two techniques: 1) Strip off the clearcoat. Then Dullcote after the Glosscote dries. Either just over the decals or on the whole frame. Waterslide decal paper is an amazing product to work with. Newsletter Settings, Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total), Premier Partners for Singletrack issues & exclusive subscriber perks, Metcheck MTB Weather Forecasts At A Glance, Singletrack Cycle Of Good Inner Tube Belt, Singletrack Lockdown 2020 426ml Coffee Mug. Im tempted to try and paint the stripes, but that may be a bit extreme, too much chance to get it wrong. Well personally, unless it’s absolutely necessary, I see no reason to clear over the top of vinyl decals. Lacquer over enamel...if the lacquer goes on too thick, ... Spray another gloss over the colors, decal, gloss over the decals and proceed with weathering. I’m in “no lacquer” camp,seen some horrible sights post crash where decals torn-up through lacquer,so to fix you have to have it refinished. Xoso. Only spray lacquer should be used over the decal once it is applied. Fresh Goods Friday 530 – Well Hello 2021! A test run on an old fork with an extra vinyl sticker I had worked fine. Put the transfers on at least a week before you apply the final coats of lacquer because the adheasive solvent may evaporate under the paint and make it bubble up or react. DK Decals DKD32011 1/32 de Havilland B-36 Mosquito in CzAF1. The decal will be dissolved by the lacquer and become part of it when dry. After you have sealed the decal with thin coats you may apply a heavier coat if you want. With a few materials and a little of your time, you can clear-coat decals yourself. After the decal steps are finished, the locomotive can be lightly weathered as desired. The frame is now ready for final clear-coating. The decals are not fuel proof or dope proof! DO NOT spray on a heavy coat over the decal as this will blister and/or dissolve the decal! With your finger and thumb gently rub the top of the decal against … I always let decals dry overnight, if not a couple days. I have had good luck using spray Lacquer in place of shellac as well. ... Over decals I use gloss coat 1st, to give a little thicker layer to blend any decal film that might be visible. Lacquer over vinyl sticker? See the section headed “Yellowing the headstock face”. I then I apply orange shellac over the decal (over the entire cabinet) to tint as preferred. When applying the lacquer start off with a "dry coat" to seal Does Tru-oil count as an acceptable coating to apply the decal to or should I try to lacquer over the tru-oil first (if that's even possible) xoso, Apr 15, 2013 #7. inkedintville Senior Stratmaster. Seeing as the bike was going to see lots of mud/filth I reckoned this would be my best option .. If you intend to lacquer over our motorcycle decals do not use any abrasives like Scotchbright pads etc. Can then peel … There is always more than one way to defur … 10. Yes, the lacquer could easily destroy the underlying acrylic. Now paint over the decal with decal solution before pressing down on it with a moist paper towel. Most of the vinyl we use is Oracal 651 series 6-year (or better); it’s … Is it possible to apply decals over a powder coated paint finish and then lacquer on top? Link Removal Im painting my RGV 250 motorcycle and im wondering about what stage the decals should be put on?I want to lacquer over them.Usually if you put the … 1/ Once the surface of the headstock is prepared remove the protective tissue over the Decal and trim the Decal as required – there is picture showing trimming a logo below. For my first attempt I used polyester over a vinyl decal, and the table looked great for about two months. If you print decals from an inkjet printer and don't do a few light sprays to seal the decal, you run the risk of the ink running or leaching out ruining your nice decal. Spray a few coats, wait a couple of days and sand it flat so there are no dips or … ... Keep repeating this process allowing plenty of time for the lacquer to harden in between taking care not to rub into the decal of course . Can then peel off (whats left of - if sanding) decals … Once dry, I take my airbrush with clear dope and very lightly spray the edges of the decal. If you're using a spray can, I'd wait overnight. Printing on the I tend to spray a couple of light coat and then go for a couple of wet coat. Shellac has the ability to stick to even polished metal, and will make a barrier between the decal and the nitro, sticking to both. I assume based on my experience that the decals will last as long as they are supposed to, or longer, because of having a coat of clear paint or lacquer applied over them. If decal is in a wear area just cover in heli tape to protect. Just enough build to be able to sand back flat. So if thats your worry, just stick them on when the paint job is finished. It is possible to scalpel-cut around a lacquered decal and cut it out,done this my self. Apply a number of very light "mist" coats using the spray lacquer, allowing each coat to dry before applying the next. Thanks for all the replies. If you are using enamel clear coat, automotive clear coat, acrylic clear coat, urethane or lacquer you must first use a thinned out coat. ... the … Fixing dodgy decals could be way easier than fixing dodgy lacquering, which will be extremely easy to do…. Cycling buddy has a car body shop so he done the prep/lacquer .. Was quoted £75 from another local body shop when I started looking.. Worth the money for a quality job and frame looks mint after 9 months of abuse 🙂, mainly depends on the make up of the decals, if they are a single colour cut vinyl there is no need to clear coat them, this should be the same quality as Automotive vinyl, used for vehicle liveries and should be good for at least 3-5 years, you can tell if the reverse of the decal is the same colour as the front “pre-coloured” vinyl, if they are a solvent print onto a white media base and the bike will see regular use its worth clear coating the frame, just watch how it’s cured, in most cases don’t oven bake the frame to cure the clear coat, the very high and then low temperatures expand and contract the vinyl and cause cracks around the edge of the decal, if you use a 2 pack or air dry lacquer you should be fine, but always best to do a test if possible or talk to your painter, other option is request the decals have a laminate after print, ideal for large “wrap” decals but not really for small individual decals, if you have some “unique” decals always worth getting a scan before fitting, just in case you need a second set. If you lacquer too soon after sticking them on, the solvents in the paint can react with the solvents in the glue and you will find the transfers start to bubble. WWII German Helmet Decal - Water Transfer (Face Up), to Face Down (lacquer applied) Instructions: We only recommend using acrylic varnish, acrylic resins or acrylic adhesives on our decals. Clear coating helps to protect the decal from peeling, cracking or sustaining other damage from exposure to the elements. Can use a chemical striper like Jasco (not sure what the equivalent is here in the UK) or sandpaper. Any tips why? Placing your decal into too warm/hot water can over activate the adhesive making it feel a bit slimy and you decal paper a bit flimsy. Privacy You can seal these all different ways, depending on what you’re going to use the project for. Bikes like Orange*/Cove use decals over paint finish so you can change graphics whenever you like. , Today we’re going to show you three different methods. Pretty much have to do the whole frame to get it to lock right. Recently I'm struggling with wrinkles of decals when I spray a clear lacquer coat over. Just to add I got decals from Gil m(used him for couple of years) decals of high quality and lacquer friendly.. Dab any excess softener with paper towel. Lacquer would make the transfers more durable but if you get bored of the colour scheme they will be an arse to remove. Personally, I don't like anything glossy looking, so I'll put down a good dull coat over everything. Then you can put the lacquer of choice on it - never used Minwax, but Deft is good, and also the stuff they sell at Lowe's (that I can't remember at the moment) is very good. This does take a long time but the end results are worth it. Varnishing the self sticking decals isnt a neccessity of course - all personal choice. Ideally, you should leave them for at least a week, but I've lacquered after a day and most of the time it'll be fine. Post subject: Lacquer over Decal? crankbrothers BOA shoes! Yes mine are single colour vinyl and Gil did say no need to lacquer .. These are vinyl decals. The clear coat it's decanted from a spray can. Most bike manufacturers only lacquer over the tank transfers, the rest are applied after paint. Use very fine grit paper to smooth it down … DO NOT spray on a heavy coat over the … Tip: If you notice air bubbles beneath your decal once it is dry, use a pin to prick small holes in it. Very helpful, and underlines how little I know about this process. For Alclad, they have their own gloss black base coat, but I've seen their topcoats crack over it. The final clear coat can be whatever you want to use for the over all look you are wanting to achieve. The topic ‘Lacquer over decals (or not)?’ is closed to new replies. Then the polyester clear coat started pulling away from the decal. We make them as thin and fine as possible, but the result of this is they don't have any real strength to stand up to daily wear. Does anyone know if the lacquer paint will affect the decals? View fullsize. Too late now but I provided MJT with custom water slide decals and they applied them. Smacking on heavy coats straight away can damage and wrinkle the decal. Can use a chemical striper like Jasco (not sure what the equivalent is here in the UK) or sandpaper. ... • #6. pip. I think I’ll test Wet-sand a small section of the decal with 2000 grit sand paper to see how it does and then apply two or three more coats of lacquer clear over it and hopefully it will be smooth enough for me to use compound and then wax over it. read more... Innmats Private Limited. I was wondering if the sticker would hold if I put a layer of lacquer over top of it? ... 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